Payers, Providers, and Patients – Oh My!: Multi-State Plan Program
Podcast | 12.12.19
In this episode, hosts Payal Nanavati and Joe Records sit down with former regulators Jon Foley, Rob Shriver, and Kristi Martin to discuss the goals and design of the Affordable Care Act’s MSP Program—and what can be learned from its ultimate failure. Payers, Providers, and Patients – Oh My! Is Crowell & Moring’s biweekly health care podcast, discussing legal and regulatory issues that affect health care entities’ in-house counsel, executives, and investors.
Materials Discussed in this Episode
- "For Policy Makers Looking To Expand Coverage, Lessons From The Demise Of The ACA’s Multi-State Plan Program," Health Affairs Blog, September 30, 2019
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Podcast | 10.24.25
Payers, Providers, and Patients – Oh My!: AI in Healthcare – Key Policy Developments and State Laws
In this episode, hosts Payal Nanavati and Megan Beaver speak with Linda Malek and Matthew F. Ferraro about the latest federal and state developments in artificial intelligence (AI) policy affecting health care. The conversation covers the Trump administration’s AI action plan and Executive Orders on AI, new industry-specific and comprehensive state laws, and enforcement trends, with a focus on how these changes impact the health care industry.
Podcast | 10.03.25

